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God of Anarchy · Jul 18, 2005, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Hey guys i just started this thread to hopefully learn a lil bout mesmers...honestly i think there underestamated people are often talking bad about them,what do you think
and for you mesmer player i would like to know if there a decent soloing character(farming wise)...well please respond...thanks in advace
~Anarchy

Ultimate_Gaara · Jul 18, 2005, 07:22 AM // 07:22

Well personaly i havent got very far with my mesmer yet because im still working on my Monk, but sofar i like them, people who bad talk them obviously dont know what they are talking about, i find that many times mesmers can be the diffrence between a win or a loss

EverBlue · Jul 18, 2005, 07:25 AM // 07:25

I target mesmers after monks in PvP. I don't like them. They're nasty.

TheGreatBoo · Jul 18, 2005, 07:25 AM // 07:25

Mesmers are the ultimate bag of tricks. They have a vast variety of skills and spells, and are the best antis. The faster you learn what you want your mesmer to be, the better you'll be off later in the game.

Plommon · Jul 18, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51

yep mesmers are great for PvP but i find it boring to play PvE with them...

Rabid Weasel · Jul 18, 2005, 12:15 PM // 12:15

I've got a mesmer going now, and they are indeed one of the most underrated charecters in the game! For example in PvP you can shut down other spellcasters and if you playing an unorganised team, they are as good as dead. In PvE they are very useful against boss monsters, espically the monk ones.

Kuku Monk · Jul 18, 2005, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by Rabid Weasel

I've got a mesmer going now, and they are indeed one of the most underrated charecters in the game! For example in PvP you can shut down other spellcasters and if you playing an unorganised team, they are as good as dead. In PvE they are very useful against boss monsters, espically the monk ones.

You can solo with a mesmer, just not very well. You need to have a secondary that has some semblance of healing as the one healing spell of the Mes just doesn't cut it. I've found the majority of the Mesmers skills to be rarely needed in PvE (i.e. most occasions you wouldn't benefit from using them); I often have to juggle my attributes and skills around depending on the enemies and locations. I've also found myself relying more heavily on the Elemental skills than the mesmer ones. When you are soloing you have to do a lot of damage very quickly. PvP's a different story, but I'll let someone who actually plays it comment...

Squallox · Jul 18, 2005, 02:03 PM // 14:03

My mesmer is my ultimate PvP machine. I can almost imagine the other teams monks on team speak screaming "**** get the mesmer!"

However i find myself increasingly being targeted before monks in PvP. Especially when agaisnt a spike group. Mesmers are soft targets and a good spike group and i am mince meat in seconds. Although this is not really a problem in a good team. Rez signet anyone?

Digitalblast · Jul 18, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49

whoever says mesmers are underestimated have obviously never played one or pvp against a team of them. They are in some ways overpowered. Not really but man, you really have to bring in the right build to beat a team of them.

Sofonisba · Jul 18, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

My mesmer is not very far in the game either. Standing in D'Alessio Seaboard announcing "Dominatrix mesmer lfg for mission" - I heard "mesmers are gay" and other such thoughtful analysis.

Ironic, though. To get through the Thirsty River (I believe) ascension mission, right after monks, mesmers were number one request to fill out groups. Take that!

Squallox · Jul 18, 2005, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofonisba

My mesmer is not very far in the game either. Standing in D'Alessio Seaboard announcing "Dominatrix mesmer lfg for mission" - I heard "mesmers are gay" and other such thoughtful analysis.

Ironic, though. To get through the Thirsty River (I believe) ascension mission, right after monks, mesmers were number one request to fill out groups. Take that!

Dominatrix eh? Kinky

tuskenraid · Jul 18, 2005, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Love my Mesmer and agree that they are absolutely the most underated character in the game. Getting in a group is a nightmare, but oddly enough, almost every successful mission has had at least one mesmer primary or secondary. Any group I've ever been in that had more than one mesmer was a sure and quick win.

Just beat Hells Precipice and had a blast playing. Hard character for the early game tho, but insanely powerful in the late game. With a good combination of skills you are a jack of all trades.

Wish more people understood mesmers. We are the only ones who don't always follow the called targets. I will initially help out, but then I often find myself "softening up" the other monsters in the meantime. Soothing images, Panic, Backfire, Shatter Delusions, Energy Burn, Chaos Storm, Conjure Phantasm and Empathy are almost always in my bar. In about 5 seconds I can inflict about 300+ damage (all bypassing armor mind you) with about about another 200 DoT without running out of energy. Warriors gain no adrenaline and hurt themselves when they attack, spellcasters get punished for doing there job and the whole team benefits.

Can't heal myself worth crap and farming is pretty much outta the picture, but in PVE an PVP with a decent healer and coordinated team, mesmer contributions are usually appreciated. I'm really glad I stuck with it.

CharSol · Jul 18, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

My build is pretty similar to tuskenraids atm and i enjoy it alot but i find it very hard t get into teams. I can make my own fine but no bugger else will invite me into theirs :P

MSecorsky · Jul 18, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25

I've found that in later missions I tend to look for groups that already have a Mez and a Necro in them. Too much power to overlook.

deathwearer · Jul 18, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

In My guild we use 2 mesmer in Tombs and GvG, and guess what, the other team monks are useless ^^

Meat Ball · Jul 18, 2005, 08:02 PM // 20:02

I was trying to give away two mezmer runes the other day and I was visiting all the missions to find some mezmer primaries. I was amazed at how few mezmer primaries there were. I would have to say that the mezmer is the least used class in the game but I love it as a secondary for my monk. Is there a place to see stats on the character population by class?

kirgr526 · Jul 18, 2005, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Ahhh, at last kindred spirits. My mesmer is, and always has been, my favourite PvE character to play. I tend also, to use the skills mentioned above (roughly, anyway). In terms of teams, I have found at certain stages that it is hard to get a group for missions, luckily my Guild mates have been able to help with that and as such, there is now a sudden increase in the number of Mesmers we have playing (from 1 (me) to about 6 or more).
The only real negative experiences I have had is with immature people commenting on my character being hot and wanting me to join thier Vent server. I should have and ruined it for them, what with me being a guy and all. Mind you my Mesmer is hot and Guildies always mention how impressive the clevage is.....

zsoltcc · Jul 18, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Have u guys seen a male mesmer dance? no wonder ppl don't want to use them

. Anyway, i use my ele skills for pve (fire storm,lava font,etc). Got to tell u though my mirror was down after 2 tries. After reading other folks issues with beating it, i think mesmers could kill one on one the best.

God of Anarchy · Jul 20, 2005, 04:10 AM // 04:10

THANKS for your post guys i created a mesmer beacuse im a clechie(or however you spell it)...i like to be different,anyways at first i wasnt sure what secondary to pick...but after asking around i heard alot of people say ELEMENTIST!Soo...i went elementist...even though i have abused the elementist secondary i went with it anyways,M/E will work right?hope soo...
hes only like lvl 7 soo i have alot more to do before i unlease the true power of the mesmer"soposivly"i like him soo far...
any skills you guys recomend
OOO and what kinda magice shoould i use?DOM. or ILL.
my first character was a mesmer but i got frustrated with him...it truned out to be more of the game,i was in a party and there was a monk that was just killing everything and i was intimidated...sooo i deleted me first mesmer regretfully
but now i have another one
ooo and you know what looks badass is the "fast casting" head peice armour,i think that looks sick,kinda a phatom loks to it

Aninam · Jul 20, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

The last character I made was a mesmer/ranger. I've traveled the most in pre-searing than with any of my other characters. I found it fun/cool to use Conjure Phantasm and watch their health drop. I am, however, planning on making a new mesmer with an elementalist as either a primary or secondary. I like the energy storage of the elementalist, but the mesmer has cool clothes. I do have to say, however, it is a totally different stlye of fighting than I am used to, coming from a Diablo II and Knights Online background.

Jul 18, 2005, 06:28 AM // 06:28	#1
God of Anarchy Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Godz Of Anarchy Profession: N/E	Mesmerized Hey guys i just started this thread to hopefully learn a lil bout mesmers...honestly i think there underestamated people are often talking bad about them,what do you think and for you mesmer player i would like to know if there a decent soloing character(farming wise)...well please respond...thanks in advace ~Anarchy

Jul 18, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01	#18
zsoltcc Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Mo/W	Have u guys seen a male mesmer dance? no wonder ppl don't want to use them . Anyway, i use my ele skills for pve (fire storm,lava font,etc). Got to tell u though my mirror was down after 2 tries. After reading other folks issues with beating it, i think mesmers could kill one on one the best. Last edited by zsoltcc; Jul 19, 2005 at 12:02 AM // 00:02..

Jul 18, 2005, 07:22 AM // 07:22	#2
Ultimate_Gaara Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?	Well personaly i havent got very far with my mesmer yet because im still working on my Monk, but sofar i like them, people who bad talk them obviously dont know what they are talking about, i find that many times mesmers can be the diffrence between a win or a loss

Jul 18, 2005, 07:25 AM // 07:25	#3
EverBlue Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada, AB, Calgary Guild: Arcane Draconum Profession: W/Mo	I target mesmers after monks in PvP. I don't like them. They're nasty.

Jul 18, 2005, 07:25 AM // 07:25	#4
TheGreatBoo Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Guild: Once again I'm a free agent. Quality guilds ahoy?	Mesmers are the ultimate bag of tricks. They have a vast variety of skills and spells, and are the best antis. The faster you learn what you want your mesmer to be, the better you'll be off later in the game.

Jul 18, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51	#5
Plommon Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sweden Guild: Shiverpeaks Wolves Profession: N/Mo	yep mesmers are great for PvP but i find it boring to play PvE with them...

Jul 18, 2005, 12:15 PM // 12:15	#6
Rabid Weasel Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Welsh Legion	I've got a mesmer going now, and they are indeed one of the most underrated charecters in the game! For example in PvP you can shut down other spellcasters and if you playing an unorganised team, they are as good as dead. In PvE they are very useful against boss monsters, espically the monk ones.

Jul 18, 2005, 02:03 PM // 14:03	#8
Squallox Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005	My mesmer is my ultimate PvP machine. I can almost imagine the other teams monks on team speak screaming "**** get the mesmer!" However i find myself increasingly being targeted before monks in PvP. Especially when agaisnt a spike group. Mesmers are soft targets and a good spike group and i am mince meat in seconds. Although this is not really a problem in a good team. Rez signet anyone?

Jul 18, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49	#9
Digitalblast Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Calgary AB. Guild: Wanta Fanta [WTF] mo/mes, war/el, nec/ra Profession: E/N	whoever says mesmers are underestimated have obviously never played one or pvp against a team of them. They are in some ways overpowered. Not really but man, you really have to bring in the right build to beat a team of them.

Jul 18, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45	#10
Sofonisba Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Guild: The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]	My mesmer is not very far in the game either. Standing in D'Alessio Seaboard announcing "Dominatrix mesmer lfg for mission" - I heard "mesmers are gay" and other such thoughtful analysis. Ironic, though. To get through the Thirsty River (I believe) ascension mission, right after monks, mesmers were number one request to fill out groups. Take that!

Jul 18, 2005, 05:01 PM // 17:01	#12
tuskenraid Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal	Love my Mesmer and agree that they are absolutely the most underated character in the game. Getting in a group is a nightmare, but oddly enough, almost every successful mission has had at least one mesmer primary or secondary. Any group I've ever been in that had more than one mesmer was a sure and quick win. Just beat Hells Precipice and had a blast playing. Hard character for the early game tho, but insanely powerful in the late game. With a good combination of skills you are a jack of all trades. Wish more people understood mesmers. We are the only ones who don't always follow the called targets. I will initially help out, but then I often find myself "softening up" the other monsters in the meantime. Soothing images, Panic, Backfire, Shatter Delusions, Energy Burn, Chaos Storm, Conjure Phantasm and Empathy are almost always in my bar. In about 5 seconds I can inflict about 300+ damage (all bypassing armor mind you) with about about another 200 DoT without running out of energy. Warriors gain no adrenaline and hurt themselves when they attack, spellcasters get punished for doing there job and the whole team benefits. Can't heal myself worth crap and farming is pretty much outta the picture, but in PVE an PVP with a decent healer and coordinated team, mesmer contributions are usually appreciated. I'm really glad I stuck with it.

Jul 18, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21	#13
CharSol Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	My build is pretty similar to tuskenraids atm and i enjoy it alot but i find it very hard t get into teams. I can make my own fine but no bugger else will invite me into theirs :P

Jul 18, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25	#14
MSecorsky Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Guild: The Sinister Vanguard Profession: Me/	I've found that in later missions I tend to look for groups that already have a Mez and a Necro in them. Too much power to overlook.

Jul 18, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#15
deathwearer Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada/Quebec Guild: Silentum Altum Profession: E/Mo	In My guild we use 2 mesmer in Tombs and GvG, and guess what, the other team monks are useless ^^

Jul 18, 2005, 08:02 PM // 20:02	#16
Meat Ball Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	I was trying to give away two mezmer runes the other day and I was visiting all the missions to find some mezmer primaries. I was amazed at how few mezmer primaries there were. I would have to say that the mezmer is the least used class in the game but I love it as a secondary for my monk. Is there a place to see stats on the character population by class?

Jul 18, 2005, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#17
kirgr526 Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Zealand Guild: Evo Crushinators Of Doom(ECOD) Profession: R/E	Ahhh, at last kindred spirits. My mesmer is, and always has been, my favourite PvE character to play. I tend also, to use the skills mentioned above (roughly, anyway). In terms of teams, I have found at certain stages that it is hard to get a group for missions, luckily my Guild mates have been able to help with that and as such, there is now a sudden increase in the number of Mesmers we have playing (from 1 (me) to about 6 or more). The only real negative experiences I have had is with immature people commenting on my character being hot and wanting me to join thier Vent server. I should have and ruined it for them, what with me being a guy and all. Mind you my Mesmer is hot and Guildies always mention how impressive the clevage is.....

Jul 20, 2005, 04:10 AM // 04:10	#19
God of Anarchy Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Godz Of Anarchy Profession: N/E	THANKS for your post guys i created a mesmer beacuse im a clechie(or however you spell it)...i like to be different,anyways at first i wasnt sure what secondary to pick...but after asking around i heard alot of people say ELEMENTIST!Soo...i went elementist...even though i have abused the elementist secondary i went with it anyways,M/E will work right?hope soo... hes only like lvl 7 soo i have alot more to do before i unlease the true power of the mesmer"soposivly"i like him soo far... any skills you guys recomend OOO and what kinda magice shoould i use?DOM. or ILL. my first character was a mesmer but i got frustrated with him...it truned out to be more of the game,i was in a party and there was a monk that was just killing everything and i was intimidated...sooo i deleted me first mesmer regretfully but now i have another one ooo and you know what looks badass is the "fast casting" head peice armour,i think that looks sick,kinda a phatom loks to it

Jul 20, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44	#20
Aninam Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Louisiana, USA Profession: R/E	The last character I made was a mesmer/ranger. I've traveled the most in pre-searing than with any of my other characters. I found it fun/cool to use Conjure Phantasm and watch their health drop. I am, however, planning on making a new mesmer with an elementalist as either a primary or secondary. I like the energy storage of the elementalist, but the mesmer has cool clothes. I do have to say, however, it is a totally different stlye of fighting than I am used to, coming from a Diablo II and Knights Online background.